Why some of us are terrible singers

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"X Factor" judges L.A. Reid, Nicole Scherzinger, Paula Abdul and Simon Cowell are so judging your subpar singing skills.

Despite a glut of TV singing shows from "American Idol" to "The Voice" to "The X Factor" to "The Sing Off" and even "Glee," 10 to 20 percent of the population fails to sing in tune, according to an often-cited expert estimate. But a new study suggests the number of horrible singers is actually much higher than that, and it explains the reasons why many folks are vocally challenged when it comes to music.

Truth be told, having a great set of pipes is no simple matter.

"Singing is a complex act," says Sean Hutchins, the study's lead author and a postdoctoral researcher at the International Laboratory for Brain, Music and Sound Research at the University of Montreal. Singing is complicated because you need to match a note with your voice and perceive it accurately, you need to figure out the right way to configure your vocal muscles, and you need to control those muscles well enough to belt out a tune, he explains.

That leaves a slew of places for a rock star wannabe or car-radio crooner to mess up. Hutchins' research, published in the Journal of Experimental Psychology: General, attempts to identify where awful singers go wrong in the process.

In a series of five experiments, researchers compared small groups of people with or without musical training. They tested participants' accuracy at matching their voices to various pitches, to a target vocal or musical tone, or to other singers.

The study found that anywhere from 40 to 62 percent of non-musicians were poor singers, a rate much higher than shown in previous research.

It also found that roughly 20 percent of people can't sing accurately because they don't have good control of their vocal muscles. Another 35 percent of poor singers have trouble matching the pitch of their own voice to the same sound heard in other timbres, such as when it's coming from a trumpet, piano, or a person of the opposite sex. And 5 percent of lousy singers lack the ability to hear differences in pitch or discriminate between two different sounds.

To be sure, some aspects of singing are influenced by genetics. "There are certainly people who are more natural singers, and the physiological shape of their vocal tracts can give a more or less pleasing natural sound to the voice," Hutchins points out. But he says, the best singers just like the best athletes will be those who are blessed with natural talent and have devoted a large amount of practice to their craft.

However, it's the poor singers of the world who are the least likely to practice. And that's what's necessary to get better at it.

To improve, Hutchins suggests that "pitch -- hitting the right notes -- is the most important part of singing well."

If you need motivation to cultivate your vocal chops no matter how hideous you sound, there's what Hutchins calls the "vocal generosity effect."

He says listeners are quite forgiving of singing errors, more so than for other types of music. "Singers actually can be quite out-of-tune before listeners will notice the flubs, but they would pick up on a musician's subtle mistakes sooner in say, someone playing the violin."

What about you? Can you carry a tune?

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The louder the radio is, the better I sound.

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#1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:16 AM EDT

The more I've had to drink, the better singer I become, in addition to more charming and handsome.

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#1.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:06 PM EDT

i consider myself a proffessional singer. I get paid to sing. i find that many people consider themselves talented and try to sing and literally are terrible. i can't understand how some people don't know how bad they truly are. I have practiced since I was 3 years old. not a simple task at all.

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#1.2 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:50 PM EDT

Lina, like my Dad always said, "son if it were easy everyone would be doing it"

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#1.3 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:01 PM EDT

Lina, I'm with you. I'm also a trained singer and instrumentalist and have performed professionally as well. It's a wonderful talent to have and I feel very fortunate to have it! And no it isn't easy. It takes a tremendous amount of training and practice for most people to be truly great singers. And I think the reason most people are forgiving of people being off pitch is because they cannot hear that the person is off pitch! Because so many people can't really hear pitch that well, they don't hear it when others are off pitch. I don't know about you Lina, but for me, because I can hear pitch, it's actually physically painful to listen to someone sing off pitch--it actually hurts my ears. That being said, singing, whether you do it well or not, can be a lot of fun and there's some evidence that it's good for us physically and emotionally. So, go ahead and sing . . . just maybe over there somewhere if you're off pitch! :o)

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#1.4 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:00 PM EDT

And then there's folks like Billy Corgan and Chino Moreno, who have very... "off" sounding voices, but do incredibly well on the charts. (That's the lead singer for Smashing Pumpkins and deftones, respectively). Sometimes a unique voice is better than the cookie-cutter, auto-tuned garbage that's a dime a dozen, no matter how technically proficient it may (or may appear to) be.

  • 7 votes
#1.5 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:03 PM EDT

I can't sing, but I can certainly hear when someone is flat or sharp. It's cringe-making. A surprising number of people that I've seen on stages (generally in churches) are off one way or the other, but then it's only church. I've found that slightly flat is the most common. So there you have it: I have the ear, but not the talent.

I'll have to agree with you WMG-21. Journey and Dire Straits never would have made it on Idol.

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#1.6 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:09 PM EDT

Unique is fine. Off pitch is not, again unless you can't hear pitch yourself. Then it doesn't matter because you won't hear that the person is off pitch and you may very much enjoy that person's voice. People like me would not enjoy listening to that because as I said it's actually painful to me. And if you need to use autotuner, then you are not singing on pitch to begin with. A truly good singer can stay on pitch without any help from a computer. And I would agree that only being technically proficient is not enough to make a good singer. I've known some very technically proficient singers who were very boring to listen to. After all, you've got to have soul!! :o) But there is just nothing like listening to someone who has proficiency AND soul. THAT is just pure magic . . . . And uniquely human.

    #1.7 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:15 PM EDT

    Ever hear Mark Knoffler? He's laughing all the way to the bank with "off pitch is not fine." He can't sing a note. Well, that's not true, he's gotten better over the years. When he took off, he couldn't sing a note.

    Let's don't even get into all the metal bands of the '70's and '80's.

      #1.8 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:51 PM EDT

      I love singing and music. I can hum a little but can't sing a lick. Once as a youngster, a singing professional was commissioned to conduct a "singing school" at a local church near our home. About all the parents made the children attend. The sessions were in the evening and just after the 3ed session began I noticed the instructor frowning and cocking his head as if listening to a disagreeable particular. At the end of that song he called a rest and asked me to step forward. I did, and He told me that I would be better suited to go on home and help my parents with neglected chores. Said I just couldn't sing a lick and was messing up all the others who might possibly improve their skills in my absence. I left and went on home. To this day I think He was right. Really enjoy beautiful singing anyway.

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      #1.9 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:53 PM EDT

      i get paid not to sing, does that me me a professional non singer?..lol

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      #1.10 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:54 PM EDT

      As I said, if you can't hear pitch all that well, it doesn't bother you. And Mark Knoffler is not exactly a well known singer. I would venture to say that most people have never heard of him. I have some of his music and it's mostly instrumental. And he's not really all that off pitch, he's just not a great singer. It's why I would never buy a record of his if it was just him singing. If you like off pitch, or you just can't hear it, that's fine for you. But it's not truly good singing. I never said that people who are not great singers can't make money. They certainly can and have. But making money doesn't equate with being a truly good singer.

        #1.11 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:57 PM EDT

        LOL You're funny, Karen. I'm thinking of some people I know that 'think' they can sing.-snicker-

          #1.12 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:08 PM EDT

          I couldn't carry a tune in a bucket...

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          #1.13 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:54 PM EDT

          My story is sad but with a happy ending - I was the one kid in first grade that was told not to sing in music class - by the second grade I was told to sit in the hall - I just couldn't sing no matter how I tried - a nun in the school saw me sitting on the floor - she took me under her wing a taught me "music theory" - I went onto play clarinet, saxophone and trombone - I ended up being paid as a semi-pro

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          #1.14 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:41 PM EDT

          I firmly believe one's ability to sing well is in direct correlation to having the proper bathroom shower stall accoustics.

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          #1.15 - Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:56 AM EDT

          Yeah, that guy in the Deftones is - well, that's the perfect name for the band. Some entertainers like Mark Knoppler, Bruce Springsteen and Tom Petty get by more on personality and the music they write, definitely NOT for the sound of their voices (and yes, I like all three - Deftones, not so much).

          I know I can carry a tune, but I wouldn't call myself a great singer, either. I sang in choir all through high school, where I was surrounded by good singers and kind of took it for granted that singing ability was so common, no big deal. I wish I had appreciated my talent more, worked it and developed it more. Instead I pursued guitar playing, something that I have even less talent for. I still play with my guitars, but no one will ever hear me outside of my house. I have started singing in Church choir again, and with a much greater appreciation for my singing ability than before.

            #1.16 - Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:51 AM EDT
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            I think I'll just continue not ever singing in public

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            Reply#2 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:11 PM EDT

            I know I can not sing and usually only try when I am totally alone. Occasionaly in church, until my grandson told me I was supposed to make a "joyous sound unto the Lord"

            • 13 votes
            Reply#3 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:31 PM EDT

            dismayed...that is the only time that I "sing", as well. sounds more like quacking.

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            #3.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:09 PM EDT

            It's good for your humility. God knows what the voice in your head and heart sounds like. I often prefer to listen to regular people anyway. Professionals are so stuck on themselves that I can hardly stand to be around them.

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            #3.2 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:56 PM EDT

            theCavelier, Agreed. HE does and it is to HIM that i sing and it is joyous. :)

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            #3.3 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:42 PM EDT
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            If only you knew... makes me wonder... could I get a research grant to continue hosting karaoke shows?

            • 3 votes
            Reply#4 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:40 PM EDT

            Have you tried? You might.

              #4.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:57 PM EDT
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              Well, practice is the best way to get the vocals going, and by that I dont mean, hollering in the toilet or whenever you get a chance. The best way to get your vocals aligned is to get a Digital Piano, (say 61 keys) (casion, or yamaha) and put it on Accordion. (Select accordion as the instrument). Then, press a note and try to match it, and make sure the sound coming out is from your chest. (deep sound, not superficial) Do this for 10/15 minutes, 3 times a week, for 2 months. (The pattern is to press different notes and change your sound to match it. Have somebody verify if you were hitting that note or not, if you are not sure. Also Remember singing is NOT a breathing challenge. Its NOT about how long you can hold your breadth, so please donot hold your breath. As soon as you have the need to take a breath, just breathe (meaning a pause in the singing) and then continue. You can let the note continue playing during that time, its ok. In order to make things interesting, you should press different notes at consitent beats and change your sound accordingly, all the while, making sure that you know and feel that you are matching the sound. Don't worry if you are off initially. It will all fall in place.

              I have yet to hear a ugly voice.. Trust me.

              Do this for 10/15 minutes, 3 times a week for 2 months, then pick a song and sing it, and if you are happy with the results, send me a 100 bucks.

              • 12 votes
              Reply#5 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:49 PM EDT

              You haven't heard an ugly voice? You haven't heard me. But if there is ever a band called Strangling Sparrows, I am there.

                #5.1 - Wed Oct 5, 2011 5:33 PM EDT

                Melissa, I am sure your voice is nice. :) If you had ugly voice people would not be able to even withstand talking to you which I am sure is not the case. Its just that you need to use your natural voice and belt out a tune using your natural voice with appropriate emotions befitting the song.

                  #5.2 - Thu Oct 6, 2011 4:05 PM EDT
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                  We (my family) sang "Happy Birthday" to my daughter's boyfriend. He asked us not to do that again. Some folks have it, some don't. We belong in the latter group. LOL

                  • 8 votes
                  Reply#6 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:49 PM EDT

                  I'm with you there. It was one of the reasons I used to dislike church, too much lip-syncing.

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                  #6.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:09 PM EDT
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                  Read my earlier post. Its like learning how to ride a bike, or how you learn to swim. Its the mind. Subconsiously through pratice, it will all start coming together. Then the brain, will always be on the correct note. Its like riding a bike. Why are you not falling off balance? Remember when you used, to, but now you dont. Its just practice. Just like swimming. Remember when you started learning, you would start drowning, now for some reason, you dont?!.

                  Trust me its just like that, but you got to practice against REFERENCE notes first. Which means, get a piano and synchronize your notes with it. Then before you know it, whenever you sing a song, you will be bang on the note instead of 'OFF it'

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                  Reply#7 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 12:56 PM EDT

                  So let's get this straight. The study says, some people just don't have the brain to sing. 5% it says can't differentiate notes. But you say that's all bunk, you can teach anyone. I assume you are making a great living creating singing superstars out of, well, just anyone you pick on the street?

                    #7.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:00 PM EDT

                    The desire to learn is what drives people to do stuff. Everbody has the same muscles and similar brains. Thats why doctors can cut open any human body and general expect to find the same number of nerves and fibres and the same class of muscles. Unless your vocal sacs are damaged, you would also have the same stuff. Now coming back to why some people can do it and some cannot, is because people are driven by their likes and dislikes. Everybody likes a good body, money, great singing voice, etc etc. But not everybody makes an effort to get it do they?.
                    Some people are more motivated than others, and yes if you make a sincere effort to match your notes, guess what, you are going to sound nice and begin improving. Have you every shouted at someone, thats a high note , right there. Everybody has a different sound to their vocals. Thats the waveform that you generate when you speak. We find some more pleasing than others and generally people identify that as "wow I love that voice". However from a technical standpoint, if you hit the notes correctly, does not matter in which voice you hit it, it would sound correct. Yes, you may still have the occasional, but this voice is better than that, and its all personal opinions. I like certain singers better than others, but I make sure that I can distinguish, between a 'mistake' somewhere in singing and just the voice quality being different. BTW I choose to listen to the voice quality that I like, so I am just like everybody else. However every art has a technique behind it, and thats what makes everything in this world 'Technical'. You got to be technical, if you want to be known as an Artist.

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                    #7.2 - Fri Sep 30, 2011 10:43 AM EDT
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                    One of my best friends sang with her high school dance band and did the same again at college. She also went to all the 'open mic' nights at local cabarets and clubs. She had quite a following. Never had a singing lesson. Never studied music (became a Vet in college). Never went after the offers she got. Just enjoyed it. When she stopped the public singing, we all asked her "Why?". She replied that she wanted to try something else...and wouldn't you know she became a pretty well known local painter and photographer. All self taught. Some people just have it, I guess. With all her talent, and exceptional good looks, she is just a wonderful, intelligent, loving friend. I must've been standing behind the door....LOL

                      Reply#8 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:49 PM EDT

                      Does that glowing review of your talented friend come with a name and phone number?

                      • 3 votes
                      #8.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:36 PM EDT
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                      I am a professional (get paid for performances) jazz vocalist.  It was not a natural "gift" for me.  While I could always carry a tune, I had no volume to my voice and was singing in a higher register than I should have been.  What fixed the problem -- I took three years of intense vocal training (bel canto method) from a classical singer (to obtain the breath control of an opera singer); tape recorded my lessons and practiced them daily.  I then switched to jazz improvisation.  I finally was able to "like" the sound of my voice after about seven years.  If this is an area you want to pursue, you MUST practice your vocal and breathing exercises every day -- no exception.  If you sing "off key," this can be corrected with a professional vocal coach.  Sorry, but there are no shortcuts and there are very few people who are "gifted" enough to sing without proper training and work with a vocal coach.  Ever notice when you hear an entertainer perform live, after listing to them on a CD, that it sometimes does not sound the same.  Lastly, there is NO excuse for professional entertainers (Christina Aguilera and Cyndi Lauper come to mind) to sing the National Anthem and forget the words.  You simply did not practice enough with your vocal coach or bother to rehearse!

                      • 3 votes
                      Reply#9 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:51 PM EDT

                      I think the trick is being able to carry a tune. That seems to be the thrust of the study. All the rest is just improvement on a talent you already have.

                      If anyone could sing with enough practice, every professional driver would eventually quit their job and go into music.

                        #9.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:02 PM EDT
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                        I would tell him we can fix that--it's called not celebrating your birthday again.  Just saying...

                        • 2 votes
                        Reply#10 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:53 PM EDT

                        We all know lots of people can't sing.  What I'm interested to understand is why some horrible singers think they are great singers, as is sometimes seen on Idol and X-Factor.  I sort of assume something akin to mental illness in these cases, but if this conclusion is unfair because of some physiological explanation, I'd like to know.  Researchers would have to get about 100 of these people together and do some in-depth analysis. The results would be fascinating.

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#11 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:58 PM EDT

                        Horrible singers, especially on TV, think they can sing because they are invited on these shows by the producers to make for 'compelling' television or increase ratings, since Americans love a good train wreck. Little do they know how bad they are until they get the feedback from Simon or others, and leave the stage wondering WTF just happened! LOL ~ I have been quasi-professional status for many (about 20) years.... I was classically trained in school in Texas where I won vocal competitions, then after grad worked hard for 7 years in the San Diego cabaret circuit to perfect various stylings in contemporary music, even had a record deal briefly in L.A. after that, and at 42 now have plenty of singing experience in many genres under my belt, and have a pretty fierce Star Spangled Banner if could say so, but when I audition for sporting events locally to sing it, or when I use pop or broadway showstoppers in my auditions (America's Got Talent was one), I am overlooked for whatever reason, and I've had my share of standing ovations from packed houses. Sometimes 'true' talent is not what it appears to be when it's being judged by others who claim to 'know' talent. I like to think I'm pretty good, hell I've worked hard enough at it! And, if anyone's interested in me putting my money where my mouth is, here's a link, you can tell me if I'm wasting my time! LOL

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptCako0AQnI - please comment if you listen and like it!

                        • 2 votes
                        #11.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:48 PM EDT

                        There are a surprising number of people that are just "legends in their own mind" and can't be truthful to themselves.

                        I, for one, can't stay on pitch, and when I try to sing, I forget the words. Always have. I could probably improve marginally, but you should really know when you aren't going to be a rock star. I can also do a decent job on the drums. Well, I could again; I'm a bit out of practice, but I'm not rock star material there either; I just don't have the originality. I've been playing guitar about 5 years, mostly by ear, and just to entertain myself. I don't think I have the originality to go much farther than that in guitar either. That's just an honest self-assessment.

                        Some people are so wrapped up in themselves, that to admit they aren't top quality would be an impossible bash to their own self image. These are people that have created that self image themselves, and don't really know themselves at all. Legends in their own mind. Then, they show up on Idol, or where ever, and wonder why they get trashed. It must be very sobering.

                        • 1 vote
                        #11.2 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:09 PM EDT
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                        Take heart. As someone who is has been told I have a great singing voice, I've always thought "Happy Birthday" was really difficult to pull off! I mean, you have to sing a cappella (without instrumental accompaniment), and everyone is supposed to start at the same time and somehow magically on the same note. Plus, it starts on a low note and gets a lot higher, so if you start off too high, you are in trouble! 

                         

                        • 3 votes
                        Reply#12 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:12 PM EDT

                        This was supposed to post as a reply to Zapper's comment. Not sure why it ended up down here!

                          #12.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:13 PM EDT

                          You have to log in using the tools button at the lower right corner of the page before you attempt to reply to a specific post. Otherwise, it will ask you to log in after you type your comment, then put your comment at the end. Its a glitch they should fix.

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                          #12.2 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:52 PM EDT
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                          People always tell me I have a very pleasant, soothing, voice when I speak and assume I must be a great singer. A few years ago, when I used to work in retail, I was given the microphone to make the announcements over the store's PA because they said I have a great "radio voice" and they would also pass on the angry customers to me because my voice would soothe them and help calm them down, but I don't consider myself a good singer. When I was a child, I was often told I was a great singer and was given the part of solo performances in school plays, but as I went through puberty, my voice changed. Yes, it's not only men's voices that change after puberty, but also women's. Oh well...

                            Reply#13 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:51 PM EDT

                            I can't sing but I can play the hell out of a harmonica. Figured if I had something in my mouth no one would ask me to sing.

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#14 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:10 PM EDT

                            My wife is living proof the some people are tone-deaf!! I play guitar and my wife will sometimes join in!! Remember the scene in Animal House where Belushi beats the guy with his guitar. It totally goes through my mind .... but I'd hate to ruin a perfectly good guitar!!

                            • 3 votes
                            Reply#15 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:20 PM EDT

                            Could someone please send this article to Lady Gagag!!

                            • 4 votes
                            Reply#16 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:25 PM EDT

                            Could someone please send this article to Lady Gagag?

                            And a few others I can think of..............and I am tone deaf!

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#17 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:27 PM EDT

                            Sorry, don't know how that happened.

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#18 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:27 PM EDT

                            Knew long ago I could not sing...it was in 2nd grade, I joined a chorus group and was asked only to mouth the words. Consequently I admire those who can sing.

                              Reply#19 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:28 PM EDT

                              i understand why some people can't sing...what i don't get is how they don't KNOW they can't sing

                              • 2 votes
                              Reply#20 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:31 PM EDT

                              Because somewhere, at sometime, someone they truly respect, trust, and care about, lied to them, and they refuse to believe that that person who they adore so much would ever do that. So they go along angrily ignoring those people who tell them "hey man... You really aren't very good".

                              • 4 votes
                              #20.1 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:40 PM EDT

                              Calvin good point and also because they themselves don't have a good ear to know the difference.

                              • 5 votes
                              #20.2 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:51 PM EDT

                              Want to find out if you are a bad singer? Put on some ear phones, play some music only through the phones and record yourself. Truly cringe inducing for those of us who had never really heard our voices before. Also a laugh riot once I got over the initial shock and disapointment of it.

                              • 2 votes
                              #20.3 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:19 PM EDT
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                              It's certainly true that you can improve your singing with practice and training, but you'll never be likely to change the timbre of your voice. Neither are you likely to increase your range by more than a step or two in either direction.

                                Reply#21 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:32 PM EDT

                                I have a deep resonate booming voice that through the years has often gotten me in trouble. I've had good friends tell me that no matter what, they can always pick me out in a crowd (even at concerts). I can't sing very well but have had musician friends tell me that if I took vocalization lessons I have the voice to potentially be very good. Just never pursued it. Maybe someday.

                                  Reply#22 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:36 PM EDT

                                  Can I carry a tune?  As my Daddy always told me "not in a #10 washtub".   Dogs howl when I try to sing, but with the windows rolled up and the air conditioner on, people in cars around me are sure that my enthusiastic singing must mean I am an exceptional vocalist!

                                   

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#23 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:38 PM EDT

                                  I grew up with music always playing in the house. My Dad liked playing records of Johnny Mathis, Nat King Cole, Ray Charles, Roger Miller and many others. I remember listing and singing as a young child not knowing of course if I was on key or not. I soon learned as I grew into adolesence that I had the talent. The only formal training I took was a class in college that taught me how to breath correctly. I also knew how to play guitar. It was great for getting the ladies and the fact I have a smooth voice was the topper. I've done numerous solo jobs and also have done musical theater. Singing is great and I always surprise people at company parties at how good I sing.

                                  • 3 votes
                                  Reply#24 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:45 PM EDT

                                  I couldn't carry a tune in a dump truck.

                                  • 6 votes
                                  Reply#25 - Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:47 PM EDT
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