This is awkward: Your most insecure pals may save your life

Mouth-breathers, eye contact avoiders and that girl who always stands way too close to whoever she's talking to: Come sit by me. A recent study suggests that the exact attributes that make the most awkward folks in your life so very, very awkward are the same traits that may enable them to save your life someday, reports MyHealthNewsDaily.

Anti-social people -- those who are especially insecure or anxious, or those who tend to avoid relationships -- were faster at detecting and responding to a potentially dangerous situation, according to the research, which was published in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science.

In the new study, participants filled out a survey designed to assess their attachment style. Then they were invited, in teams of three, to play an Internet-based game, and were left to wait in a room for the game to start.

When the experimenter left the room,  the "computer" in the room began to emit smoke. The computer was actually a disguised smoke machine, and the researchers observed the team's response.

Teams with higher levels of avoidance responded faster — roughly 1 1/2 seconds faster for each point higher they scored on avoidance on their initial survey.

As social psychologist Tsachi Ein Dor explained to the health news site, "Anxiety, which is unpleasant to those who feel it and to other people in their surroundings, could be highly beneficial, as it enables early detection of threats." Likewise, avoidance "is also highly beneficial, because it enables rapid response to threat," says Ein Dor, who was one of the study researchers.

Socially-awkward types, we want to hear from you: Do you find you're especially quick to react in a crisis? And friends of the socially-awkward: Have you ever seen this in action? Leave a comment telling us about it.

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 I would say that I am quick to react if someone scares me or I think someone is going to attack me.  The sad part is one of my friends (whom I'll call Clark) scared me while I was walking past the car following screams from his sister and her friends while they were playing flashlight tag.  In my defense I didn't know that they were playing at the time, no one told me.  Needless to say that didn't work out well for him. About the time I realized who it was I had already kicked him.  He was fine but the scary part for me was that I had him.  I could have killed him and not know it.  But to end this on a high note we are still friends.

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Reply#1 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:54 AM EDT

My natural wariness of others has kept me out of trouble so far. I tend to spot shady characters well in advance of any of my friends.

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Reply#2 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:28 AM EDT

i'm the exact same way. i've pulled my friends out of places right before bad @!$%# went down so many times i probably couldn't count. i will say there's something very satisfying about seeing the looks on people's faces who were pissed you made them leave as you drive away and see several cops heading to where you just came from.

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#2.1 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:37 PM EDT

WTFness

My natural wariness of others has kept me out of trouble so far. I tend to spot shady characters well in advance of any of my friends.

I totally agree, and I finally feel relieved that someone has chosen to recognize US. I, also, can "see" things coming a mile away. I often warn people of danger, even sickness, before it is apparent. I never "feel" comfortable in most social situations, and avoid relationships, but as one stated, it is incorrect to assume that people like me are "anti-social," actually I am a very caring person, it is that I just avoid situations that I think are unnecessary or not really helpful to anyone or anything. I call it "dancing to a different drummer" or socially independent.

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#2.2 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:32 PM EDT

Now that this article points it out, I guess I DO react to things quicker. Like I remember my friend and I were crossing the road and I heard her phone drop so I picked it up and gave it back. Aparently nobody else (other people were around but I wouldn't call them "friends") heard it. Also I have A LOT of de ja vu moments. It's not much but I can see a place or person YEARS before it happens!

    #2.3 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:20 PM EDT
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    I think this may have to do with an overall extreme sensitivity. Socially awkward people simply find the cues given off by other people to be too intense for them to be completely comfortable with. That same sensitivity makes them aware of all kinds of subtle things--including dangers--that others miss.

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    Reply#3 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:49 AM EDT

    I agree with this theory. I am extremely sensitive and self-conscious. Little things, smells, noise, etc. that most don't even notice, can bother me. I am not "anti-social", I love people, sometimes too much. Seeing how people treat each other so poorly can make me depressed for hours, and being in large crowds is nearly impossible. I don't have many friends, but I have one or two very close ones. I hate parties, I prefer one on one conversations.

    That said, when in stressful or dangerous situations, I always keep my cool and my mind leaps to ways to help out. I have smelled smoke from a fire first, I've delivered a friend's kitten who was "stuck" (thanks, Animal Planet for showing me how), and leaped to help someone in a wheelchair who had fallen over in the street...before the people who were standing right next to them even noticed!

    • 9 votes
    #3.1 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:06 PM EDT

    Kudos to you, dysphoria, for what you've done to help others! In terms of sensitivity and temperament, you and I sound very much alike. And I like timmeh's point that we are not ANTI-social; we're A-social.

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    #3.2 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:31 PM EDT

    Interesting. I attribute it more to a development of self-reliance in the asocial. Basically they don't have as many people to do things for them so they learn more on their own. The socially adept are specialists in having others provide for them so it makes sense than when **** hits the fan the asocial person is generally going to be better adapted to handling the problem.

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    #3.3 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:05 PM EDT

    I have always been very socially awkward, most of the time. I blush very easily, have extremely sensitive skin, hearing, taste and touch. I also do not like large crowds and tend to like being alone. I only have a couple friends that are somewhat close. I can detect subtle nuances in behavior and facial expressions and body language. I also have had quite a few 6th sense experiences of being able to anticipate something bad before it happens. I can "see" it in my mind. I have had, strangely enough, two experiences of which I have not known what to think about or even call, until recently when I ran across it on the internet. It's called Astral Projection. I have done it two times, I don't know why and I don't know how, or what even triggered it. I will go into detail if anyone who doesn't think I'm a complete looney toon wants to hear it. Otherwise I don't like to tell people very often. I usually get totally dismissed or a sarcastic remark before they change the subject and pretend like I didn't just say that.

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    #3.4 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:50 PM EDT

    I sure as hell wouldn't climb over a railing at Yellowstone, and I would be grabbing ahold of any friend of mine who would.

      #3.5 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:17 PM EDT

      If he or she was truly your friend, then he or she would listen to your advice that the rocks are slick, and a quick way to a messy death. But would you give your friend the Heimlich if he or she was choking on a piece of hot dog? Would you be the first to notice?

        #3.6 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:52 PM EDT

        I appreciate the asocial versus antisocial distinction so very much! It uncannily describes my eldest son. He's brilliant, strikingly handsome, 6'4, witty, etc., yet can not bear crowded rooms, much less any activity that will draw the slightest attention his way. He has always been unbelievably sensitive. And as others have also beautifully described here, sensitive does not been weak or effeminate. It literally means more attuned. More attuned to facial expression and other body language. Which, in a world full of selfish, at best, and cruel at worst, people is a very painful condition to be in. He too has only one or two friends. Whom he never contacts. They have to contact him first. And if an invitation includes being around a group of people, he will decline.

        I am amazed that others have also described heightened ability in other senses, not just increased social perceptions. This is so true! My son describes the metallic taste of green peas (they do have a high iron content) and since he was a baby showed me that he had the ability to sense perfect pitch. He would complain if I sung a note of a lullaby slightly flat or sharp, even though he lacked the words to describe them.

        Recently we stayed with my mother to help her recover from major surgery. I bathroom heater malfunctioned and the bathroom caught fire. My kids and I were all sitting in the living room, but my "asocial" son jumped up. He had perceived smoke just before the alarm sounded - certainly before anyone else in the house did. He ran to the bathroom, ran back and issued loud, assertive and even frantic orders to vacate the building and evacuate all of the neighbors in the apartment complex (in case the fire smoldered through the roof.) Afterwards we only half-jokingly commented on our surprise that this self-described "geek" immediately assisted my mother out of the building, and only after everyone was safe did he go back to save the computer. His transformation, when it really counted, was total.

        He still feels that he is pretty much unique in the world, though. It breaks my heart that this caring, interesting, funny, beautiful human being literally isolates himself from almost all relationships. He has made me a better person, though. I have learned not to "judge a book by its cover." I now recognize the same tendencies in others, and am far less likely to misinterpret anxiety for arrogance. Even simple steps, like not standing between an asocial person and the door of a room, can go a long way.

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        #3.7 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:55 PM EDT

        I was pretty socially awkward as a teen, and I would also describe myself as somewhat hypervigilant. That enables me to observe things other people don't notice. There is a price to it, as I sometimes notice things I don't WANT to notice or I can become overly distracted by things that are not relevant to me. Another side to it is that I have a lot of intuition into the feelings and thoughts of others-I don't think it's any kind of hocus pocus, it could be something as simple as being able to read very small body language cues. I'm certainly not saying that everyone who is very intuitive comes from an abusive background, but those of us who did come from an abusive background had to be VERY good at "taking the temperature of the room" and reacting accordingly. I'm not constantly anxious and frightened like I used to be-in fact, I'm pretty chill now because I know why I used to be so afraid and I know I don't need to be afraid anymore-but the hypervigilance and the intuition are still there and do enable me to see danger before others do.

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        #3.8 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:29 PM EDT
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        Antisocial is used incorrectly (it means against society). Ted Bundy was antisocial and felt no anxiety. Asocial people lack the ability to socially interact with people and usually feel a lot of anxiety.

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        Reply#4 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:22 AM EDT

        Totally socially awkward, ex-wallflower, loner, shy....some of my hard-won friends and I were out in a car on a rainy night when the driver decided to go under a flooded underpass. The water came up to the doors. I suddenly found myself outside the car on a raised walkway looking at their surprised faces. They were all still in the car. I said "what are you waiting for? The car's going to flood!" They thought it was pretty funny. But I"ve always been like that.

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        Reply#5 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:47 PM EDT

        And the opposite is true too, the most socially adapted people tend to also be the most useless when things go bad. It makes sense though, the nature of being asocial leads these people to become more self-reliant while the socially adept are skilled at getting others to provide for them.

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        Reply#6 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:03 PM EDT

        I am extremely awkward and paranoid... My friends often make fun of me because I call 911 at least once a month. At every moment something bad happens or seems as if it is about to happen I will be phoning the police. Aint nobody fighting, robbing, or killing one of my friends because the police will know about it 5 minutes before it happens!

          Reply#7 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:25 PM EDT

          exact attributes that make the most awkward folks in your so very, very awkward are the same traits that may enable them to save your life someday

          I'm going to have to be the grammar police here and bust this sentence. I wish I could mark this with read ink. There is a subject-verb agreement problem here.

          The most awkward folks in your so very, very awkward [blank] are the same traits that may enable them to save your life.

          Honestly, journalists, some of these errors you make could be so easily caught and corrected with a word processor's spelling and grammar check function.

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          Reply#8 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:54 PM EDT

          ManFromNantucket:

          I'm going to have to be the grammar police here and bust this sentence. I wish I could mark this with read ink.

          Are you all out of blew? ;^>

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          #8.1 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:03 PM EDT

          Blew? BLEW?!? GTFO! The grammar Nazi says GTFO!

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          #8.2 - Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:18 AM EDT

          "Read ink"? Perhaps you meant red ink? Just a question.

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          #8.3 - Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:21 PM EDT
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          Is this journalism anymore or just a page-view contest?

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          Reply#9 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:08 PM EDT

          This would explain my perfect driving record.  I get anxiety attacks all the time and I rarely am able to look people directly in the eye but I have prevented my husband from getting into two car accidents so far because I caught sight of the danger before he did.

            Reply#10 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:10 PM EDT

            I've never been in a car accident either. I never attributed it to these traits, but maybe so. I am ultra aware of what other drivers are doing.

              #10.1 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:28 PM EDT

              Same here. Despite an early-in-life tendency to drive a little on the fast side, I've driven 250,000 miles in the ten years I've had my license (including 5 times across the country), and I've never been in any sort of an accident. I get the heebie-jeebies when other people get their vehicle too close to mine, so I tend to get away from them by any means possible... and as such I tend to witness the thousands of acts of stupidity that many other drivers are completely blithe to, since so many seem to think that everyone else is actually paying attention to the road..

                #10.2 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:37 PM EDT

                Actually, the "unable to look people in the eye" description did not make sense to me... I ALWAYS look people in the eye...it tells you a lot about them. In fact, I am uncomfortable when someone won't look me in the eye. I know I am someone who is in many ways like those described in this article...very sensitive and pick up on people's feelings, etc. easily, and I am very compassionate to others and their pain and sadness, and that can bring sadness that is more deeply felt than maybe most other people may feel. I don't know, because I have nothing to compare it to really...since as long as I can remember, I have always been pretty sensitive to others. I could tell numerous stories about life events I have experienced that would be considered unique or unusal...like knowing where a family member can find something they lost without having any "usual" way of knowing...I dreamed it. One time I went into a store and smelled gas very strongly, so I told the owner at the counter we should be getting out of the store because of the strong gas smell. He said he could not smell anything, nor could anyone else in the store, and he did not take it seriously. I urged him to call the gas company just to be sure, but he wouldn't. I went home, but I couldn't get it out of my mind...I was very worried about it, so I called the gas company myself and reported that I thought there was a leak at the store. The next time I was at the neighborhood store a couple weeks later, the owner thanked me profusely...he said there WAS IN FACT a gas leak and the gas company worker who responded said he was very lucky they caught it and were able to repair it before a tragedy. One time a friend and I were walking in a resort and I insisted we go out of our way in returning to our room, upon which we soon came by a door where a very young child was sitting. I asked him if he was lost and he started crying and said yes, and so we helped him to find his parents on another floor of the resort. My friend looked at me astonished and asked me how I even noticed him there or knew there was anything wrong? I always thought everyone would notice something like that, but as I have gotten older, I realize not so. I have sensed things before they happen, even very far away from where I live and I have no idea why. I have called my kids home because of an uncomfortable feeling that something was not right, only to have some major incident later happen with the friends they were with. (my kids actually do not always appreciate this "sensitivity" of mine...but they all have it to some degree, as well). But it can be a painful situation in a lot of ways for very sensitive people, I think...harder to trust and thus harder to make relationships, few good friends, like quiet time and to be alone, avoid crowds and large groups, shy or self conscious unless you know you can feel comfortable around someone, etc., and many do not like to talk about or have people notice they are "different", either. However, maybe some of those traits are actually due to childhood and other life experiences that were difficult, and that is what plays a part in the person becoming more of a quiet, sensitive hyper-vigilant person . Anyways, I am still very comfortable with myself...just very aware that many people consider people like this "odd" or distant, or something. Oh, well.

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                #10.3 - Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:23 AM EDT

                I'm the exact opposite. I can't look people in the eye. I've never known why but except for the people I trust and know the most I can't look in their eyes.

                  #10.4 - Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:14 PM EDT
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                  I think this article is so true, I am extremely shy by nature. Over the years I have tried successfully to a great extent to over come my shyness. But after reading this article it suddenly hit me that all my life I have always felt that I am able to avoid and respond to accidents of any kind faster than the people around me. Whether it is driving a car, or playing soccer in the garden I detect potential threats a lot faster than my siblings. It has always been a source of irritation to me as to why people cant seem to foresee the potential mishaps coming their way. I have a feeling this anxiety has somehow created in me a super-prepared mindset. I indulge in a lot of high risk outdoor activities but have always been the safest member of my group. I seem better at predicting, despite lack of experience which way a boat will tilt when taken off a trailer, how a motorcycle will behave on gravel... etc etc before the problem actually happens. I think my personality types should be used as security and for detecting abnormal behavior. I remember once when I walked into a bus, I noticed a young man, who by his subtle actions I could tell was not in a normal stat of mind, I warned the bus driver that there was something wrong, the bus driver told me he'd keep an eye on the situation. sure enough 5 minutes later the young guy was almost about to punch a fellow passenger. Thanks to my warning the bus driver could zero in on the culprit easily and have him leave the bus. Interestingly, in a high stress/crisis environment I tend to be less shy also.

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                  Reply#11 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:22 PM EDT

                  In a crisis situation, I seem to be able to stay calmer than a lot of other people. Also, my attention & thought processes become a lot sharper, more focused, & my shyness tends to recede.

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                  #11.1 - Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:27 PM EDT
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                  Why would anyone want an awkward pal to save their life?

                    Reply#12 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:31 PM EDT

                    You'd rather die than have an "awkward pal" save your life? RIP.

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                    #12.1 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:00 PM EDT

                    because you don't want to die or be hurt. That seems like a good reason.

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                    #12.2 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:30 PM EDT

                    Ummm, so you won't die?

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                    #12.3 - Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:23 PM EDT

                    @Virgil

                    you'd rather die than have a "awkward pal" save your life?

                    yeah that makes sense (sarcasm)

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                    #12.4 - Tue Sep 6, 2011 8:50 PM EDT
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                    Ditto!

                      Reply#13 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:37 PM EDT

                      Ditto!

                        Reply#14 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:37 PM EDT

                        I totally agree. I'm not one to walk up to people at parties and make small talk, but if the building was on fire, I would be the first to run inside and get as many as I could out safely. Or if someones life was in danger, like a bank robbery, I would immediately look for and exploit an opportunity to avert the situation, and kill the assailant without hesitation.

                        Im also an avid racer. I love to drive as fast as I can around corners and respond to things immediately without consciously thinking of whats going on. I trust my instincts, yet I cant relate to someone at their level in conversation. to me that is more scary than going around a corner sideways at 100mph.

                          Reply#15 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:39 PM EDT

                          Wow. I can't negotiate social situations (unless moderately intoxicated), dread family functions, am a complete shut-in (taking at least 30 minutes to prepare the "things I NEED" before leaving said apartment), have awful anxiety concerning low-grade negative life events (parking tickets, paying a bill I have more than enough money for, "appointments" just COMPLETELY freak me out -but put me in a car-crash, warzone (fallujah was a BALL!)house fire or crisis/emergency and things seem to slow down; my "confidence" (I like to call it "sense of self-preservation" surges) and all situational decisions seem to compress into an extremely small selection of options in which the safest route becomes quite simply the most obvious even though whatever that option might be is out of character. It's very weird. But useful. 

                          eleven bravo. 

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                          Reply#16 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:39 PM EDT

                          This study had nothing to do with mouth breathing and close talking.

                           

                          Its all about anxious, introverted type people. And of course it makes sense people who run on the anxious end of the spectrum are the first to notice problems.

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                          Reply#17 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:41 PM EDT

                          I agree with what almost everyone has said here, including you. It reminds me of Elaine Aron's work on sensitivity, referring to sensitivity to external stimuli, whether physical, mental or emotional.

                          I also tend to notice things that others don't and I can detect changes in the moods of others easily. I have been able to tell when a fight was about to break out and convince friends to leave before things got really out of hand.

                            #17.1 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:05 PM EDT
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                            The "socially awkward" person, the wallflower, is not socializing, but observing. They seem to react quicker, because they notice sooner.

                            I hope this study didn't cost too much!

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                            Reply#18 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:55 PM EDT

                            I am very outgoing and sociable and have a lot of friends, but I am also extremely observant. I attribute this to my upbringing as well as training I received as a claims investigator. I don't wait to see what others are doing -- I take action. My daughter is even more sensitive -- she is "hypersensitive" due to trauma from childhood. We adopted her at age 11, but she grew up on the street, so she is "street smart."

                            So it's not just personality or sociability. Environment has a huge impact.

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                            Reply#19 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:10 PM EDT

                            I don't think that it's just quicker reaction, but the result of years of negative confirmation bias that give the outskirters a greater awareness of when others are in pain. Those who understand what it is to be lost and hopeless are less likely to hesitate in that 'assesment' moment while all of the normies are busy sizing up their risk versus reward.

                            Some years ago it fell to me to give CPR to a four-year-old child in a department store. The child, obviously cyanotic and and not breathing, was surrounded by dozens of 'concerned' people who seemed stumped for what to do. They were busy watching each other and looking concerned. The outskirting nerdboy was the one who stepped in and provided the example. There was no thought of a CPR kit, nor would it have been effective with the child's jaw spasming, his tongue swollen and mouth filled with vomit.

                            Once I stepped forward, there were hands everywhere, ready to help. They wanted to help from the start, but I think that they all had too much fear of what they might catch or be putting at risk.

                            The child revived minutes before the paramedics arrived. I was spitting out mucous and covered in vomit, but never before or after in my life have I felt such... approval from those around me. I think that this sort of thing provides an example that can reinforce our eusocial natures.

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                            Reply#20 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:32 PM EDT

                            Thank you. For your action, and for sharing it here.

                            I am a full believer that BOTH nature and nurture affects our behavior. I have also always felt like an outsider. This makes a person, not antisocial, but an observer. And an especially keen observer at that. And while it is painful to note the tiny, yet clearly disapproving, facial expressions that others are blissfully unaware of, it can also be beneficial when that sensitivity leads to a warning.

                            You showed that in the most extreme way possible. You saved a life! I certainly hope that you DO receive enough positive reinforcement, not to change your very nature, but to at least allow you to enjoy loving relationships with high quality people. You deserve it.

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                            #20.1 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:14 PM EDT
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                            you are correct, Rick, I may not easily socialize, rather I observe and do see because I am

                            not distracted

                            although I am an outgoing person, not an introvert, I still become very anxious.What makes you an authority Hank?

                              Reply#21 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:51 PM EDT

                              Are you saying you'd rather die than have someone "awkward" perform CPR or apply an AED? Do yourself a favor...never visit your local firehouse...you wouldn't like seeing how many of us firefighters are "awkward" in our off-duty social lives, but have no problem exercising judgement and leadership in a crisis.

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                              Reply#22 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:52 PM EDT

                              Do you have to reinforce the negative cliches about firemen?

                              Is there some sort of special secret firemans rules about this?

                                #22.1 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:33 PM EDT
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                                I'm not socially awkward; I just seem to feel better when people are not around me.

                                I am a very happy self-actualizing person who loves life and other people just seem to siphon off my happiness and interfere with my spontaneity and, yes, I am very perceptive to everything going on around me and I respond very quickly to threatening situations.

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                                Reply#23 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:53 PM EDT

                                Dingo, well said

                                  Reply#24 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:57 PM EDT

                                  You mean he did a good job of totally misunderstanding the study and then made absurd inferences?

                                  Where did anyone suggest that a slight heightened sense of awareness in casual setting could have any effect on ones ability to do procedures under stress?

                                    #24.1 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:48 PM EDT
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                                    The reason some people appear to react more quickly is that we evaluate the situation internally. Socially needy Normals subconsciously evaluate the reactions of the rest of the herd before reacting themselves. That would probably hold true even if the participants were evaluated singly instead of in teams of three. Normals would be left partially blinded by the lack of input from others. Try the study again with two of the three being actors. We mouth breathers will react more slowly to hysterical reactions of the actors to an imaginary danger.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    Reply#25 - Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:00 PM EDT
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